Why e-learning is killing education | Aaron Barth | TEDxKitchenerED

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Education at scale doesn’t have to suck. If you ditch conventional e-learning’s clicky gimmicks, and focus instead on science-backed design principles and powerful human stories, your training will shift from tedious to transformative.

Dr. Aaron Barth, thought-leader and president of Dialectic, gives progressive leaders the confidence they need to tackle their hardest people problems using scientific methods. Rooted in education, Dr. Barth founded Dialectic after completing his Ph.D. in Philosophy at Western University, keen on fusing theory with application.

Dialectic uses the power of science to accelerate employee learning, transform organizations, improve employee and customer engagement and mitigate unconscious bias. Dr. Barth and his team of gifted scientists and designers have implemented interactive learning experiences for 50+ Canadian companies, uncovering workplace barriers and mobilizing impactful strategies. They work in two areas: workplace culture and learning and development. For both, their goal is to help their clients create behaviour change at scale. Dr. Aaron Barth, thought-leader and president of Dialectic, gives progressive leaders the confidence they need to tackle their hardest people problems using scientific methods. Rooted in education, Dr. Barth founded Dialectic after completing his Ph.D. in Philosophy at Western University, keen on fusing theory with application.

Dialectic uses the power of science to accelerate employee learning, transform organizations, improve employee and customer engagement and mitigate unconscious bias. Dr. Barth and his team of gifted scientists and designers have implemented interactive learning experiences for 50+ Canadian companies, uncovering workplace barriers and mobilizing impactful strategies. They work in two areas: workplace culture and learning and development. For both, their goal is to help their clients create behaviour change at scale. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at

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  1. Universities have become far too expensive and are more about making Money and promoting Woke narratives by intellectuals that have Never actually left education. They are being rapidly out paced by the rise of On-line courses where you reach the same standard of learning at your own pace for much less money, whilst gaining valuable work experience. Want to get pissed, make friends and have fun, do it in your own time much cheaper !!! Sounds like this man never left education!!!

  2. This is utter nonsense. He is damaging the opportunity for many that would benefit from this way of learning and expressing a very one way narrow minded perspective.
    He clearly lacks the understanding of varying learning needs and differentiation as well as the broad application and application of e learning.
    He could have just saved us time and stated: 'maybe e learning is not for everyone but for many, it is very useful'.

  3. Thank you very much for this wonderful and touching lecture! I can promise that I will tell this story from the bank many more times in Train the Trainer seminars when it comes to the appropriate form of teaching. It encourages me a lot in the path I have taken as a trainer-instructor. Dirk Hannemann, communications trainer, Berlin (Germany)

  4. I don't understand the discrepancy between e-learning and storytelling, we can tell a story, and create meaning and empathy by e-learning as we did on YouTube. we can keep learning in person and online as well, both of them have great benefits and some disadvantages

    we can seize the benefits to keep flexibility, and availability anytime anywhere from e-learning and we can continue learning in person to make social contact with each other

  5. I mean, who says that you can't do storytelling in e-learning. It's up to the person who creates the content to not make the kind of quizzes that he talks about in the ted talk and instead bring storytelling and it's still be less work than doing it in person.

  6. eLearning killing education? One week after the world shut down and EVERYONE had to move to eLearning and virtual education? Dr. Barth needs to rethink and redo this talk because eLearning is the only way the future has a chance!

  7. This is not groundbreaking information. Every Learning Designer knows this and fights this fight every day. We believe in holistic learning experiences that are scenario based, problem based and incorporate active learning experiences… unfortunately that is not how corporates and our clients think – as these scenario based and adaptive models are expensive and take longer to develop. I always will use a scenario based model over a click model and I'm sorry but no one is using an avatar speaking in front of bulletpoints anymore… well not Learning designers that have actual qualifications in learning.

  8. This is why I love e-learning and why I struggle in school, it offers flexibility for me to be able to take my time and actually think about/ reflect on what I have learned (or observed if in a lecture) and think about applications of the info and try my best to look for errors in the thinking. Basically, yes storytelling is great, but for me flexibility to pace myself so I can make sure I fully understand before moving on completely is most important (FOR ME) 🙂

  9. The technology is problematic because the internet is still quite new and it involves so many moving parts. They are rushing into online learning too quickly. And the UI and security measures are a hindrance to learning. Because they take up too much time and energy that aren't relevant to the learning.

  10. As a high school shop teacher – I agree 100% with Aaron!
    Also, if we were to imagine a world where all learning was done online, we wouldn't need schools anymore and the most valuable thing schools have is LAND!!!! SO much LAND!! So much money for governments to make!

  11. Stories are useful, but only useful in engaging the student with the content. Like gaming, you learn the controls and strategies but it's the story that gets you to keep going, because you want to learn what will happen next.

    The real point I'm making is that some people keep stories in themselves, and can engage with the content on their own. Not everyone is as unmotivated or uncreative as most students, which usually happens 'because' of education.

    Let learning evolve.

  12. eLearning is great if you want a online certification. Any serious degree program exp is cheapened on eLearning. It's not the same as in person live exp with an experienced professor who can tell you real stories that connect with the course material. I can speak from personal experience having taken Uni course in class and in eLearning. e-Learning also takes up far more time and energy as you spend more time figuring out what needs to be done Vs doing the actual work. I made As in my eLearning classes but I dont feel I learned much as I can't recall most of the stuff anymore while my in-person classes from years ago, I still remember the stories my Prof taught. I totally Agree with Aron Barth !

  13. I homeschool and we use e-learning and paper. Stories are fun, but if you don't have time, the most important part of the stories are the analogies. Eduation went down way before e-learning. The biggest downfall was the imposition of Common Core. I went to elementary school in the 60's. Nowadays, spelling books (or online) don't teach spelling rules and math books (or online) don't drill basic arithmetic. We learned by rote and I can still add, muliply and divide without a calculator. And, as you can see, my grammar is still pretty good, too. 🙂

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