How A.I. and Big Tech Are Shaping The Future of Healthcare | Dr. Lloyd Minor X Rich Roll Podcast

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Rich sits down with Dr. Lloyd Minor, the Carl and Elizabeth Naumann Dean of the Stanford University School of Medicine and Vice President for Medical Affairs at Stanford University, to discuss AI’s transformative potential in medicine and healthcare, Precision Health, and much more. To read more about Dean Minor and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾

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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:46 Role of the Dean
00:03:17 Balancing Interests
00:05:45 Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare
00:07:56 Pros of Artificial Intelligence
00:10:53 Challenges and Oversight
00:13:14 Impact on Medical Practices
00:17:30 Precision Health and Early Detection
00:18:55 Wearables and Predictive Health
00:21:43 Integration of Health Technology
00:22:46 Passive Attitude towards Health
00:24:14 Understanding Chronic Lifestyle Ailments
00:25:10 Role of Physicians and Proactive Preventative Care
00:26:04 Impact of Technology on Medical Education
00:28:26 Virtual Reality in Medical Education
00:30:17 Sponsor Break
00:31:24 Nutrition Education in Medical School
00:34:09 Moving Towards Predictive and Preventative Healthcare
00:35:52 Precision Health and Precision Medicine
00:39:14 Ethical Dilemmas and Responsible AI
00:43:45 Engaging the Public and Trust in AI
00:44:44 Big Tech Players in Healthcare
00:45:52 Walmart’s Healthcare Clinics and Amazon’s Healthcare Services
00:47:23 Technology in Healthcare Studies
00:48:44 Privacy Concerns and Data Usage in Healthcare
00:54:08 Regulation and Government Involvement in Healthcare Technology
00:56:57 Incremental Changes in Healthcare System
01:01:01 Social and Environmental Determinants of Health
01:02:56 Predictions for the Future of Healthcare
01:06:22 Technology’s Impact on Healthcare Providers and Burnout
01:07:48 Future of Personalized Healthcare
01:10:15 Advancements in Organ Growth
01:11:52 Exciting Opportunities in Biomedicine
01:12:59 Daily Health Practices
01:21:08 Intersection of Technology, Medicine, and Future
01:26:07 Importance of Effective Communication
01:27:54 Building Trust and Vulnerability
01:28:34 Uncertainty and Trust
01:29:10 Learning from COVID
01:29:48 Rebuilding and Learning
01:31:56 Closing Remarks

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40 Comments

  1. Hippocrates would be extremely disturbed about how our food system and quality has been declining for years . He was a big advocate for letting food be your medicine and yet we have consumer products that have been directly associated with increased metabolic and mental disorders. Quality food will always be the key to healthier life but many quality foods is very expensive for the lower class people to purchase and enjoy.

  2. Nutrition isn’t taught in medical school because there is whole other profession that covers it. Dietitians now require 7 years of education and training and so many people still don’t even know they exist! As a dietetic intern it’s a little disheartening sometimes lol. If you’ve never heard of an RD go look us up and tell your friends and family!

  3. Let's put the artificial intelligence on pause for a moment and use some human intelligence if that's ok.

    Every school should have:

    a water filtration system

    An organic farm that can be operated as a class

    Healthy meals served on real plates

    Facilities clean with natural cleaning products

    Playgrounds not made with cancer-causing materials

    Outside classrooms in the morning

    Lots of exercise

    Unbleached toilet paper

  4. As a doctor, I do believe in data, and the great utility of large data sets. I do see some issues with certain wearable technology, as it promotes hyper-vigilance and data points that in fact do not change management. I think that some patients may benefit from certain wearables in the future, however, this takes great consideration. I think of these new forms of measurement and management as prescriptions as well. They are not without their effects.

  5. Speaking to the privacy of information; in Canada, the various systems, ie: Hospital institutions and various GP’s offices, are not sharing information. Thus the possibility of entering in an ER search, a collective of Dx’s, will not trigger any possible patient searches, as the search would only be limited to the individual system, and a generic data base. Our government has been speaking to interacting these various networks for 20 years, with no “move forward”. From an emergency aspect, it would be nice to see a patient’s overall Hx, in order to streamline the best quality of care, however if someone arrives to the ER without an active historian, typically there is a delay in the best possible outcomes, other then the most generic treatments.

  6. This episode is truly precious and should be spread to promote awareness and the importance of an overhaul of the healthcare system at a global level, which is lacking everywhere

    (as in Italy , my country).

    Dr. Lloyd Minor's mission, as he says, is based on three salient points:

    patient care , research , teaching.

    TOP HIGHLIGHTS FOR BUSY PEOPLE

    1 – 00:07:56 Pros of Artificial Intelligence

    2 – 00:17:30 Precision Health and Early Detection

    3 – 00:22:46 Passive Attitude towards Health

    4 – 00:25:10 Role of Physicians and Proactive Preventative Care

    5 – 00:34:09 Moving Towards Predictive and Preventative Healthcare

    6 – 00:35:52 Precision Health and Precision Medicine

    7 – 00:39:14 Ethical Dilemmas and Responsible AI ( Cons of Artificial Intelligence)

    8 – 00:56:57 Incremental Changes in Healthcare System

    9 – 01:07:48 Future of Personalized Healthcare

    10 – 01:21:08 Intersection of Technology, Medicine, and Future

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    TOP HIGHLIGHTS FOR SUPER SUPER BUSY PEOPLE (MUST WATCH !! )

    1 – 00:07:56 Pros of Artificial Intelligence

    2 – 00:34:09 Moving Towards Predictive and Preventative Healthcare

    3 – 00:35:52 Precision Health and Precision Medicine

    4 – 00:39:14 Ethical Dilemmas and Responsible AI ( Cons of Artificial Intelligence)

    5 – 00:56:57 Incremental Changes in Healthcare System

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    ITALIANO

    PARTI SALIENTI PER LE PERSONE CON POCO TEMPO

    1 – 00:07:56 Pro dell'intelligenza artificiale

    2 – 00:17:30 Salute di precisione e rilevamento precoce

    3 – 00:22:46 Atteggiamento passivo nei confronti della salute

    4 – 00:25:10 Ruolo dei medici e assistenza preventiva proattiva

    5 – 00:34:09 Verso un'assistenza sanitaria predittiva e preventiva

    6 – 00:35:52 Salute di Precisione e Medicina di Precisione

    7 – 00:39:14 Dilemmi etici e intelligenza artificiale responsabile (contro l'intelligenza artificiale)

    8 – 00:56:57 Cambiamenti incrementali nel sistema sanitario

    9 – 01:07:48 Il futuro dell'assistenza sanitaria personalizzata

    10 – 01:21:08 Intersezione tra tecnologia, medicina e futuro

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    PUNTI SALIENTI PER LE PERSONE TROPPO IMPEGNATE

    1 – 00:07:56 Pro dell'intelligenza artificiale

    2 – 00:34:09 Verso un'assistenza sanitaria predittiva e preventiva

    3 – 00:35:52 Salute di precisione e medicina di precisione

    4 – 00:39:14 Dilemmi etici e intelligenza artificiale responsabile (contro l'intelligenza artificiale)

    5 – 00:56:57 Cambiamenti incrementali nel sistema sanitario

    Thank you Rich for your work! 🙏 I'll be happy to help spread the message in any way 🤙

  7. So why aren’t children required to sit through w/ a passing grade for basic health education to make responsible decisions through life. Why aren’t insurance companies giving children and young adults realistic annual health checkups to prevent diseases later in life?
    Because it’s not part of their business model, and understand it is big business.

  8. At the end of the day, who cares if health data is out there? What difference does it make? I’m old enough to remember before fax machines, much less the internet. And given so many people post their every move, snack, romantic relationship, political prattle, religious thought, frustration at work, chore and errands vacation, whatever. And sites that have our address, birthday, relative and their info. And now, with the opportunity for real advancement for better health for everyone using our collective data — NOW people are “worried” about privacy? So irrational and frustrating

  9. Why did you leave out food our most important source of energy?? Yes. Food is medicine. My Great Grandma, Grandpa and others before them lived well into their 90s and healthy. They lived on healthy sunshine, access to clean water and pesticide free foods, micro plastic free.This day and age there's forest fires smoke covering our sun and who knows what's in our food? They didn't need AI back then, expensive drugs or anyone constantly probing and testing them.

  10. Just one added note as a RPh , electronic prescribing systems also helps reduce the number of fraudulent prescriptions (rx pads being stolen, falsifying phoned in rx) and hopefully in turn , help alleviate the opioid crisis that’s happening. It helped reduce the time needed for clarification on atrocious handwriting also. Great podcast

  11. As an active practicing infectious disease physician, my COVID experience was not so relaxing. Covid Burnout/PTSD is real for those who actively worked during surges. The medical system is very complex and each discipline surgical vs medical vs academic etc are all very different specialties which physicians learn in detail after medical school. Medical school can only set the foundation to help a physician learn, which is a lifetime. While medical AI may help individual patients, it’s not going to be a practical solution to our nation’s chronic health crisis nor will adding nutrition classes in medical school as 40% of people don’t seek medical care. In addition, effective behavioral change is unlikely to happen at an annual visit. Prevention needs to begin at home. Nutrition is a long neglected public health crisis. To solve this problem effectively, public education must be accessible to all from childhood.

  12. thank you for this @richroll – love his clarity on generally people are good…can see what ai is going to open up for each of us, on our own health. am already using chat gpt to cross reference different medical tests to see patterns, in an unidentified issue. use it to cross reference the meds prescribed, create a delivery timetable and what not to eat, when. appreciate greatly the focus on safe guards and privacy.

  13. You can’t have a preventative care system within a corporation owned top down system. The two systems are fundamentally opposite in their goals. Corporate healthcare makes money on #1 controlling/owning treatments/delivery methods to disease and #2 rationing/controlling your care. There’s no incentive financially to keep you from being sick. That is why the charity system worked so well in the beginning of healthcare and hospitals. That is until greed took over. I remember. I was there.

  14. That Medicare Advantage comment was kinda of a tell….Rich should you have an episode on Medicare…. traditional supplemental plans vs Advantage plans for us soon to be old timers

  15. What I hope for is that AI will be able to identify a person's DNA, biochemistry, bacteria, anything unique to that person, then "taylor-make" a fix for whatever is wrong. Personalized diagnosis AND treatment.

  16. We must teach doctors to be proactive and advocate over going through motions and compliance only. It’s bad for healthcare and anti health for patients when healthcare pros are passive, which most are enabling harm with silence.

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